Dragon Has The Most Difficulty Beating Lotus

[Aramid 2]

The lotus clan is the magical clan. They have no unit who have an excellent resistance in piercing damage. Their mighty heroes Koril, Issyl, Zymeth, Yvaine and Soban compensate from this disadvantage. Their dark magics and mighty warlocks seem a threat to the other clans.

The Dragon clan is an honorable clan. The mighty samurais produce pain once they die. Their heroes, Arah, Otomo, Garrin, Tao, Kazan and Teppo are powerful in inflicting damage. The honor and glory are well respected and desired.

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The Dragon is the clan who has the most difficulty in beating Lotus?

In my opinion, they do have the most difficulty because there is only 1 non hero unit that has an excellent magical resistance, dragon warrior but he is weak from cutting and explosives which gives the blade acolyte and warlocks a chance to kill them before they attack. Dragon Heroes, Otomo and Garrin are weak in explosives which in a matter of 5 seconds can be killed by 8 warlocks. Arah who is the greatest archer suffer from inaccuracy due to koril's evasiveness. Archers which are the dragon's most relied unit to kill piercing weak units are ineffective from Koril's innate and Issyl's good resistance against piercing.

No dragon unit can kill a lotus group using 1unit alone.

Serpent Clan, have a lot units that have excellent armor against magic.

The wolf have berserkers and shale armor to receive their easy victory.

For you Do dragon clan had the most difficulty beating the lotus clan?

VOTE NOW!

[Petar 5]

I dont think so. In fact I think dragon is the clan that have the easiest time beating Lotus!

1) The main force of Lotus is Warlocks, Master warlocks and Unclean

2) All these are rangers so one star dust from Kabuki could well place them on their place!

3) How you imagine unclean and warlocks in melee combat against samurais ?

4) Master Warlocks are only weak to fire so Dragon warriors with flame sword will unleash hell on them if properly used with kabuki. ( Archers with flame arrows and hero Kazan also could help )

5) Lotus have good melee units but they are no match comparing to dragon ones!

6) Besides, Samurai with dragon skin will make their way unharmed by Lotus and everything will change in face to face combat even with their hefty magic vulnerbility.

Of course the Lotus have a tousand of strategies and everything could be different, so it always depends on the player and on the situation so u cant tell which clan is stronger.

I play that game from 2001 when I first saw the demo version. So I speak from humble expirience of 6 years practise.

[epoX{L} 0]

omg, a offline player...

[reNekRoManT 3]

Dragon can't vs Lotus

[the necromancer 2]

lotus dominate the clan known as dragon.. in fact, i wouldn't be surprised if in any new journy's, lotus had somehow enslaved dragon

[Narith // 나리쓰 0]

5) Lotus have good melee units but they are no match comparing to dragon ones!

You will be suprised how only the disead one can defeat almost all mele dragon & serpent units

[Speedy 11]

That's because the diseased one has very good resistance to cutting attacks, and most melee units are cutting. Did you know the D-One even has two health upgrades.

[cptheslayer 2]

want my opinion?

well, using sd with sam and dwarriors sound good. But sc dw ds goo is the trouble that kills them easily. Even without sc, dw goo ds healers with some dones can kill dragon. Fightin wolf, dones, goo, healers, and staff adpets (lots of them) will kill wolf. i still think that wolf is not much better than dragon against lotus.

[Staff Adept 1]

I'd Definitely say that Dragon has the biggest trouble dealing with lotus, yet Dragon warriors and Archers are really good to use aagainst them, as well as the Dragon's monument.

[samuraispirit 0]

I think so too that Lotus is too hard to beat for dragon. When I play against a Lotus clan and want to attack it then mostly I say my ally to attack them with me or I will not have a good chance.

I think wolf have the easiest way to kill lotus because of theyr shale armor.

[[LOT]rundown 3]

Serpent is the best clan to beat lotus with. Vetkin, mug, and smoke are a deadly combo. Mass smoke is also a pain in the ass to beat, hate it when it has to come down to that. Diseased ones own zerks and so does the masterwarlocks' globes. Shale armor can only get you so far.

[reNekRoManT 3]

u mistake rundown

beat vs lotus this snipers + utara and vetk that kill sc

Smoke too good but 3 sc can kill all cannoneers

[[LOT]rundown 3]

I go serpent is the best vs lotus and you just backed it up more, how am I mistaken, and mass sc is very hard to beat with issyl, even with vetkin and utara.

[Light 2]

IF talking about Br then dragon has really no chance

but in wotw its better n i would say best among the other clans u just need 3 guardian with smash 3 startdust 2/3 sam, archers n healers

wen lotus army approaches just breach ur guradians in that army n stun,immediatly use Dragon Spirit,(if DRAGON SPIRIT IS OT THERE)then target all archers to staff ,stardust warlocks n unclean and BAMM lotus army is vanquished without much loss. just keep in mind that us stun one after the other not all simuntaneously....

cya

[iTameTurtles 1]

Turtle crack techniques and guerrila tactics are your friends, Use bait and ambush tactics wisely, the lotus DS do not have the leisurely ability to run for extended periods use that to your advantage, even the warlocks need stamina to do double SC.

Taken from personal experience: You bait with Arah/archers with zen acc, Cannoneers with range upgrade and smoke bombs(possible mix with caltrops carrying raiders) or... wolf err... don't know... hurlers, possibly with magma upgrade thinga majig, not experienced with in depth wolf playstyle.

My favorite is the Arah tactic, where enemies are forced to run at me or stick together and get picked off one by one. (You can also try putting her on a horse and pair her with a zen arrow archer, if you, somehow get caught by blade acolytes too often, or the enemy have horses themselves, you get more damage to boot).

The serp cannoneer/raider combo is a favorite of my friend(EFFING CALTROPSSSSSSSSSS~) mostly used against wolf, but just as good against lotus.

That's the basics, everything else is situational, I will not list all possibilities or courses of action the enemy might take, but lotus without stamina to waste or missing units is better than taking them head on with full force, also, turtle cracker tactics tend to annoy the enemy.(may or may not work for your advantage).

in my opinion: Lotus = Clan that hates running the most.

[Otomo_007 0]

I agree with turtles as long asu just do little raids one after another with little waits inbetween you'll get the lotus very easily. Or u could send half u attack party to attack the front then send the other half to attack from a diffrent position that wrks well as well.

[Vanenix 0]

I tried 2 Dragon vs 5 Lotus Clan and it is impossible to kill them

[{HeRo}GeneralDS 4]

Well...I voted that the dragon has the most difficult time vs lotus. Most of whatever dragon can throw at the weakness of the various standard lotus units can easily be turned away with most lotus BG..like DC for archers, DS for most units, and others. It is pretty much a guaranteed loss for dragon users if they can't counter every possible technique a lotus user can toss at you. Get SC for the warlocks, protect them with DC, and dragon can kiss their base and all units goodbye..

Trust me, I used dragon in the past, massed archers, and they just ended up six feet under in a matter of moments. This is before I realized the usefulness of Stardust..and even that had no aid to me once the warlocks got into my area.

[Team_fadel 0]

u cant beat louts by dragon any More

[Samurai_Dragon22 1]

well i only send samurai in the battlefields when they all dies the lotus will go with them whahahahhahahaha

[firsthonorboy 1]

The Dragon clan can win against the Lotus if you fight strategically. First, what you need to do is to incapacitate their warlocks and master warlocks, if any, because they do the most damage to samurai, which I use very often. Next, fully upgrade your geisha so they can heal more often. Also pick a missile unit to mass produce because your samurai need support. Make sure to get the heroes, especially Kenji(if you can) because you need as many warriors as you can train because the geisha can't heal everyone.

[{{clan}}CocKTail- 0]

The Dragon clan can win against the Lotus if you fight strategically. First, what you need to do is to incapacitate their warlocks and master warlocks, if any, because they do the most damage to samurai, which I use very often. Next, fully upgrade your geisha so they can heal more often. Also pick a missile unit to mass produce because your samurai need support. Make sure to get the heroes, especially Kenji(if you can) because you need as many warriors as you can train because the geisha can't heal everyone.

lol sorry but thats not so easy ithink ure new in here right?

u know lotus has the abilty dark canopy which save all units fromm shooting damages

and it has sc which can kill whole dragon army in 1 sec

this is all u need with lotus against a dragon

[firsthonorboy 1]

lol sorry but thats not so easy ithink ure new in here right?

u know lotus has the abilty dark canopy which save all units fromm shooting damages

and it has sc which can kill whole dragon army in 1 sec

this is all u need with lotus against a dragon

But if you kill the staff adept/s who is/are producing the dark canopy, or if they lose stamina, then it stops working. An dark canopy doesn't stop melee attacks, so your samurai will be fully functional as melee units, and your geisha can still heal them. And soul chill is not that effective unless you have multiple warlocks who can use soul chill.

[Petar 5]

You will be suprised how only the disead one can defeat almost all mele dragon & serpent units

deseased loose to kabuki , whirl and dragon war.... from serpent ronin + yin pwns them so does the enforcers and cannoners

rundown' date='10 May 2008 - 04:11 PM' timestamp='1210428682' post='32718']

I go serpent is the best vs lotus and you just backed it up more, how am I mistaken, and mass sc is very hard to beat with issyl, even with vetkin and utara.

army with only sc is pretty retarded if you ask me even with Issyl ... SC is magic dmg I think so army of dragon warriors can pwn warlocks anytime... and if you manage to turn on chi shield before the sc it will be piece of cake even.... no unit is tooo good to be used alone

[daemonprince666 1]

Samurai/Kabuki army owns them anytime. Dragon skin for the Samurai and both BG for the Kabukis.