Is Massing Id Considered Abuse?

[Izaak 3]

Lotus should not have a problem with this. Powder Kegs use their stamina for ID, right? Then Lotus should charge melee units when they're out of stamina. Furthermore, If a Lotus has Issyl, that would work even more. Charge in deep in the enemy. The kegs will be more a nuisance than anything to the enemy player.

-Izaak, Lord of the Lotus Clan.

[Speedy 11]

An ideal solution for Lotus would be the Silvered Steel upgrade for Blade Acolytes, Issyl's Haste, and the Inner Strength BG.

[Izaak 3]

Since I always keep a couple of Blades I don't have a problem. Plus I donnot play in Valley of Death. I always play where there are lots of trees.

-Izaak, Lord of the Lotus Clan.

[Guest [LOT]Phate]

Lotus should not have a problem with this. Powder Kegs use their stamina for ID, right? Then Lotus should charge melee units when they're out of stamina. Furthermore, If a Lotus has Issyl, that would work even more. Charge in deep in the enemy. The kegs will be more a nuisance than anything to the enemy player.

-Izaak, Lord of the Lotus Clan.

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if you add dw it will make those kegs easier to kill

or... koril on a horse

pretty much lotus doesnt really have a problem with id oviously cus of the dc

[[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5]

baxter that ID and SC thing...all u need is mugz and a tough az army from u and ur partner no biggie man...

[Speedy 11]

This is the thing, you need a "tough ass army" which i don't always have.

[[LOT]rundown 3]

The way to beat this. Make SC and ID yourself.

[{Dark}KaBuKI 2]

ID is the easiest thing to counter. with any clan...

[[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5]

lol baxter oki and run haveing ID and SC is not the only way to beat mass ID and SC lol mugs are helpful and dc would also be helpful....

[[LOT]rundown 3]

I know, I was just saying how he could beat it one way.

[Guest Aramid]

GUYS How can I kill Dragon opponent fast If I am the devious Serpent before my opponent ill use those kegs with ID?

[[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5]

lol i also have that trouble just rush them with swords musk and raiders to burn any towers they have and while u r attacking him u burn his buildings down...

that way he will be dead and he wont have that chance to make ID or any other unit lol.....

i always try doin this with a dragon user....because straight away u know they are going to ID u...

[[LOT]gumbercules 0]

if youre getting ID just make like 10 musks with that explosive shell thing you get from that building that you can get by building the tavern....... i forgot the name of it........... and go at them .......... i did this once and i was like holy f***** s**** i didnt know that was possible... the result was...... with one shot i was able to kill 8 kegs with ID and the geishas guarding them and since the musks are fast runers the kegs didnt even have time to shoot them because they were concentrating their attack on a tower.... one blody shot...... try it.

[[LOT]diablo 1]

sounds like a plan but kegs r more powerful than blast shot gum and its called blast shot and u get it from the metal shop....

[cptheslayer 2]

Many facts and flase info are being posted here about dragon units. Mostly false info are posted by those that don't even play or don't just know dragon.

Alvz, stardust does not stun and lower your enemies and their resistances. That is Flash Powder that does that. Did you see that I used Flashed Powder to stop those warlocks from running to sc us yesterday? But I could not do that many times cuz dc was running to protect them. Another thing, most melee units will not kill mass kegs with zen arrow help. Only those that has high resistances against explosive like bandits, berserkers, blades. Do not use sam withou iron skin. Do not even bother to use Ronnins.

Alvz, ur rush strat is good, but a few raiders will have a hard time burning down any building without the upgrade. When u got a few raiders and musk and sword, dragon has wat to stop your rush and your time and resources spent for the rush would be a waste. Well, of course u get some yins, but if u failed badly, then Dragon will counter attack your base and you are doomed.

Most of the time Kegs are stationed deep in the middle of the base and only move out when is ordered to id. Of course Zen Arrow is great help to secure suprises and enhance kegs id range.

One Solution to tried: Mass chemists with rokets things against mass id. Since chemists has high explosive resistance and does explosive damage, Kegs stands no chance if this fight is mass chemists v mass id kegs.

[[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5]

hmmm ok my bad i got mixed up with star dust and flash powder i meant flash powder.....

yeh my rush strat is a little noob like but i am still fixing it up but u wont beleive how many people i have beaten like that....

[Drakossozh 0]

wat does ID do?!?!

[Speedy 11]

It dramatically increases the range of Powder Keg cannoneers, but as a result they become slightly less accurate. Slowly drains stamina, acquired from a Shrine.

[reNekRoManT 3]

i think that abuse

but all time can stop this "Mug",Vetkin, 2 or 3 Samurais , DC and others

[ScorpioN MK 0]

Masssing id hmm suks.if u are in the wrong map like freedom there are many ways to counter those id.u can protect them only by towering in enemy base but they still to open to attakes even with those towers so i think massing id is abuse.

[seppuku 0]

aw come on, if something has to be considered as abuse it should be sehks soul chill ffs, thats just TOO OVERPOWERED!

[Petar 5]

IMO mass ID is not abuse... it can be countered easily with shock melee units... and I think that DC is abuse ... I mean lotus units are low on hp usually and they need such kind of bg but for a tier 1 unit it is tooooo much..... I thing it will be fair if DC was instead of the burning BG of warlocks.... It is a damn worth spell for a tier 3 unit...

[FIRE4 9]

Yeah, give it to lv3 unit so the lotus can be easly beaten. Bla Bla Bla

The ID rises range but lowers line of sight, dont forget that. And whats the problem with ID? It uses stamina right? so wait to lose all of the stamina and thsts all, im not sure but the stamina is enough for about 5 shots, and why attacking them while theyr in the base? Btw Serpent can have invisible units early in the game that are powerful and very effective to distract the sumo. while giving time for other units.

I think such topics are started by noob players that lost in a game by somthin and are too stupid to think out a way to counter it. To be a good BR player u must be more flexable, losing ur army means nothin cuz the enemy must have also some casualtys.

So put some logic in the game to stop stupid topics...

Oh, and BTW Immolate is very effective! I once burned down a Wolf keep in no time, 2-3 seconds with some immolates, im not sure but Uncleans pink mud that they throw makes the units in it more flamable, so combinet with immolate they should do good dmg to units two.